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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:37 am    Post subject: Hello Reply with quote

Hey, I was surfing the internet the other day, and found someones Flickr site where they did exactly this and actually found myself excited about doing something for once (I work two jobs and am so exhausted most of the time that I don't really wanna do much of anything) anyway, I went out and bought a bunch of beads on my way home from work that day only to find it didn't come with boards big enough >_<

Well, I ordered them and they are two days or so out, and while I'm waiting I started looking up more about it, and the more I read the more I wanted to start, then I found this site, and thought, well isn't that just eerily perfect? <_<

Now, to the point at last... When the boards to finally come and since I have basically no ironing experience whatsoever... would it be better to start with smaller projects and prolly ones that are perfect squares/rectangles? And more specifically, what would be something good, I noticed someone mentioning mega man, although I think if I did that I would be way too tempted to give it to my one friend...

Oh and any tips you wanna share are more then welcome... I threw some beads on a board to make the ship from galaga and pretty much decided I'd be using tweezers someday in the future, unless there's an easier way... and now I'm rambling sorry! >_<
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

always good to start small, but it doesnt have to be a perfect square, more than likely you'll make some kinda icon character like mario, pacman or something 8-bit. its really easy to pick up, the only skill involved is ironing it nicely and maby NOT knocking the boards causing carfully placed beads to go everywhere, bitch with the big ones when that happens.

gotta ask, you know you need to put grease proof paper or Hama/perler brand paper over the top before ironing right? without ironing paper the beads will stick to the iron, melt, go black and well, stink you house up Razz
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just started making bead sprites recently and this is what I’ve learned, so far.


Getting Started:

I suggest starting with Perler’s jar of 11,000 beads. This will give you the most beads for your money. You won’t get a large number of any particular color, but you will get a broad color palette and should have enough beads to make several sprites. The bucket includes ironing paper but not tweezers or pegboards.

If you can’t find this in your area, get a bucket of beads but check to see which colors are in the bucket. Different buckets (based upon their themes) have different color mixes. Don’t worry about the pegboards in the buckets, they are of little or no value for creating video game sprites.

You should also buy an Activity Box Kit, but not just any kit. Buy a kit that includes a large, interlocking square pegboard. This is the pegboard you will need to make simple sprites and is the basis for creating larger sprites (more boards). Look on the top of the box to see which pegboards are included in the kit. I chose the Cars & Copters kit because it was heavy on black, white, and primary color beads. The Jungle Safari kit also has a large square pegboard and has more brown beads.

The 11,000 bead jar and box kit with large, square pegboard will cost approximately $20.


You will need tweezers. Perler makes tweezers with pointed tips but if your store doesn’t carry them, you can probably find something similar in the craft, hardware, or beauty section.

If your interest in bead sprites continues, buying online (most likely from Ebay) is your best option for pegboards and filling out your color palette (e.g. single-color bags and Hama beads). Hama beads are the European counterpart to Perler beads and have a slightly different color palette. Many of the more advanced sprites you see were created from a mix of Perler and Hama beads.

Sprites:

Smaller sprites are best for beginners; they are your only option if you have only one pegboard. You may want to count the pixels in the sprites you wish to make before you assemble them so you don’t end up with a sprite that’s short by one or two rows of beads. Smaller sprites require less time and beads to make, allowing you to create more sprites and get more practice ironing.

Megaman (and bosses) sprites are a good starting point; they’re simple, colorful, and they look good. Mario enemy and power-up sprites such as mushrooms, fire flowers, goombas, and shy guys, etc. also look good and fit on a single pegboard. The same goes for many classic arcade games such as Pac Man and Galaga, etc.

Ironing:

I can’t give you much help here. You’ll just have to follow Perler’s directions and then experiment with different settings, motions, and ironing times to find what works best. Try to keep the iron level to melt the beads evenly. I can tell you that if you lift the paper off the sprite while it’s still sticky, you will lift any unfused beads off the design. I’ve done this a few times. The sprites will tend to curl after you iron them. I minimize this effect by placing my finished sprite between two sheets of ironing paper and placing a flat, heavy object on top of the sprite for several minutes.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I read the ironing instructions that came with the stuff, so I saw about the paper :p good thing too, I won't be using my own iron >_>


Thanks for the advice... I didn't know about the curling >_> that woulda driven me nuts the first few times knowing me >_< I ordered a bunch of those bigger plates off of an online store cause the only perler things the wal-mart I went to had were some kits (with the small square boards and two different buckets... I got a bunch of those, but didn't have a plate big enough...


How will you know when you've ironed enough without pulling out pieces cause you were impatient? <_<
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't use the paper that comes with the perler bead kits. It's folded up. When you spread it out and iron it, you're gona be ironing the creases into the design & they'll be visible to your eye.

Instead go to your local grocery store, go into the baking goods aisle (with all the cakes & pans & such) and get some nice silicone paper. It'll be in a roll so when you use it, just cut what you need and there won't be any folds.

Lasts for an indefinite time. Can be used more than once but not too much.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ooo, I would not have thought of that one >_> thanks! ^_^
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkdramon wrote:
Don't use the paper that comes with the perler bead kits. It's folded up. When you spread it out and iron it, you're gona be ironing the creases into the design & they'll be visible to your eye.

Instead go to your local grocery store, go into the baking goods aisle (with all the cakes & pans & such) and get some nice silicone paper. It'll be in a roll so when you use it, just cut what you need and there won't be any folds.

Lasts for an indefinite time. Can be used more than once but not too much.


I've never had trouble using the folded ironing paper. The iron does a pretty good job of flattening it for me.

I might have to try your suggestion, though. I only have a few sheets left. Surprised
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prolly a dumb question, but I was just wondering how many different colors actually exist between perler and hama... I only have perler at the moment, and the thing I got to store them seems to be running out of drawers faster then i'm running out of colors while sorting them -.-() - yeah it sucks - and I was curious if I would have to get a second thing eventually or if the one I have is good enough...

I got a nice 39 drawer chest from Home Depot, the nine bottom drawers are huge... will that be good enough? o_O
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dunno-39 drawers is a lot, and it also depends on the size of the space and the quantity of the beads.

I have 5 or 6 of those 17-compartment plastic bead boxes holding everything I have. Some of the colors are taking up multiple spaces, though.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And this was gonna be an excited post till I noticed that I joined back in October -.-()

Anyway, I finally found enough free time to make my first sprite... and screwed it up... I had an unfused galaga ship sitting there since october... but the thing didn't fuse right (mostly cause I've never used an iron before >_>) but then I went for something bulkier and now I have a cooling link sprite hiding under a microstation textbook (why not? the proggy's proven otherwise useless thus far...) not that I know how long to leave it there but I think I did it right this time... so we'll see, I'm just hoping I did right when I changed from bright yellow for the skin (I was considering calling him Link Simpson, but the name didn't flow well enough, to some odd version of orange... anyway, I'll post it once I've made a few more and can create my own thread ^_^

Hehe, I'm finally a bead-sprite-er ^_^()
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think it matters how long you leave the sprite underneath something heavy as long as it's there for awhile. I've forgotten about my sprites & left them underneath weights overnight.

I'd worry more about leaving it under for too short of a time.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I figured that one, I was just excited to see my first successful creation :p

Anyway, I'm about to iron my second one now... how many do you think I should make before I post a thread for em?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's never too early to start posting them.
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